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New LDS president not likely to change LGBT policies

93-year-old Russell M. Nelson succeeded Thomas S. Monson as the 17th president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

His election and the selection of Dallin H. Oaks, 85, as first counselor and Henry B. Eyring, 84 as second counselor indicates no change in the church’s controversial LGBT policies and the status of women.

Dieter F Uchtdorf, born in East Germany, 77, who was second counselor, returned to his place in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. Former car dealer, M. Russell Ballard, 89, has been named the acting president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.

At 93, Nelson, who was a renowned heart surgeon, is the second-oldest apostle in Mormon history to assume the presidency.

During the news conference, new LDS leaders were asked about the 2015 pronouncement that LGBT LDS married couples are “apostates” and forbids their children under the age of 18 from religious rites. Nelson previously said the policy came as a “Revelation from God.”

Both Nelson and Oaks emphasized that LGBT people are welcome, but noted the LDS leaders must preach, the apparently contradictory God’s love and God’s law. “There are commandments of God [and] challenges to enter his holy presence,” Nelson said.

Oaks said God, “Has given us commandments and a plan to achieve the highest blessings. As leaders of the church, we have a responsibility to teach love and also the commandments of God and the high destination he has for his children. … It’s the love of the Lord [balanced with] the law of the Lord.”

Since the church’s all-male priesthood precludes women from its highest governing councils, Nelson noted “we have women on our councils, women administering ordinances in the temples. We depend on their voices. We need their voices, their input and we love their participation with us.”

Eyring conceded that there is concern about women not getting recognition in the church, but “in terms of influence, the Lord has already given it to them. I think [there is] no greater influence [that] exists in the kingdom.”

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32 Comments

  1. My LDS friends keep telling me how the church “changes with the times”.
    So they appoint an old, white, bigoted man responsible for the deaths of LGBT people and destroyed families as their leader.
    Are the “times” the crusades?

  2. Always the same arguments that lead to nowhere.

    More than 3.6 billion people practice an Abrahamic religion. Religions, which at the core, teach of the importance of the relationship between man and woman and God in creation. They make it clear why; they always have. It’s not a mystery in the Western World, unless you want it to be a mystery. I personally don’t believe that the LGBTQ+ community in Utah is so ignorant.

    Whether sexual or asexual, it doesn’t take a biologist to see the role and importance that procreation has to play in nature.

    You can live the life you choose without pretending to be ignorant for the sake of your own brand of bigotry.

  3. So … my mother shouldn’t have married a man she loved at 80 because they couldn’t procreate? Infertile people shouldn’t marry?

    Or are you just sticking with the “everyone else is doing it” excuse for hate?

    How does two people of the same sex loving and marrying each other affect you at all? Or could it possibly be you are just a bigoted, hateful, sheep?

  4. So … my mother shouldn’t have married a man she loved at 80 because they couldn’t procreate? Infertile people shouldn’t marry?

    Or are you just sticking with the “everyone else is doing it” excuse for hate?

    How does two people of the same sex loving and marrying each other affect you at all? Or could it possibly be you are just a bigoted, hateful, sheep?

  5. When we no longer have thousands of kids in foster care, homeless, and in need of adoption, when we no longer have a rate of 1 in 6 kids going to bed hungry in this state each night, then you may have a point. how can you say we should wantonly produce more offspring just because the Bible says we should, when we can’t take care of the ones we already have? When Christians kick their gay kids out of the house?
    We’re not exactly in danger of running out of humans.

    Aside from that, not everyone follows one of the Abrahamic religions, so you’ve no right to force the tenets of your faith on those who don’t believe the same as you.

  6. You do know who pushed SLC and then the state of Utah to put in LGBTQ protections in employment and housing, right? (This was before the gay marriage ruling.)

    The church view of gays in its ranks is cause for concern. But, the LDS church has been supportive of lgbtq in the community.

    It’s definitely a mixed bag, but realize there’s a baby in that dirty bath water.

  7. Of course, nothing will change until another celestial vision comes directly from heaven. Hypocrisy about unconditional love does exist among the extremists religious people.

  8. But they also told children of gay parents that they had to essentially disown said gay parents in order to be members in good standing, and there are also still LDS parents disowning gay kids and throwing them out of the house. Church leaders push for housing while members create a need for it?

    And they attempted (and largely succeeded) to block gay marriage using financial means as well as a highly active phone campaign in California during the Prop 8 debacle.

    It seems that the church and its members are all confused about how to align conflicting views, and that stuff needs to be sorted out. Members are getting conflicting information. Church believes family is important, but gays are… Problematic at least.

    But for members of a church who believe that family is the most important thing, eternally, and places such emphasis on sealings and other Temple ordinances, it seems counter to their faith to disown family members due to a sin.

    Essentially, I don’t think any church should push for or against any laws. There should be a separation between church and state. When the LDS church tries to force their religious views into the political spectrum, it causes problems. They can of course encourage their members, inside churches, to behave a certain way as individuals, but the church has far too much political power and influence. There is no separation, here. If the leadership didn’t essentially tell its members how to vote, there would be less conflict because people could actually view it as a personal political issue rather than one of eternal importance.

  9. Surprise- another old white man. Perfect for killing off the white supremacy church where women are disallowed from the secret priesthood and subject to male dominance.

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